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IWearHisRank --- 13 years ago -

Cops, or Civilian MP's. Whats up with them? Why do they think they are real cops? LOL 

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

Someone handed them a plastic chrome coated badge and a walkie talkie and they think they're Billy Bad@ss...just like PMO on any Marine base. The real douchers are the civilian PMO haha...I have a friend FAP'd to that god awful duty right now and he told me straight up those dudes HATE Marines. 

kElJoY --- 13 years ago -

Well it won't be hard for those real doucher Billy Bad@sses to track you down now and have a personal conversation about it seeing how your truck is pretty distinct lol. 

kElJoY --- 13 years ago -

And you know, PMO does monitor this site. :) I'm jus sayin.  

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

I do and not all PMO are jerks just some :) have a few friends at PMO here. My biggest qualm is that a lot of the Marines like to disregard rank and act as though they are above simple Marine Corps customs and courtesies. I call it like I see it. 

Erin --- 13 years ago -

I took my ID out of a Marine's hand at the gate today. He was being a pompous donkey butt. I was not amused. 

IWearHisRank --- 13 years ago -

Im just wondering why the MC thinks it's better to hire these civilians than to use thier own? 

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

I have heard the idea is to make all 5811's Field MPs and to keep the civilian police officers as gate guard and what not. I could be wrong just a friend of mine is an instructor at the PMO school house and said something along those lines. I personally am not sure with the budget cuts/draw downs how that will pan out since they pay the civilians quite a bit better than their Marine counterparts. The difference being as I've heard is that the civilian MPs are actual accredited law enforcement officers. 

IWearHisRank --- 13 years ago -

asI've heardis that the civilian MPs are actual accredited law enforcement officers

Only on base though. I mean they dont have jurisdiction off base. Or do they? 

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

That's what I've been told as well. 

kElJoY --- 13 years ago -

since they pay the civilians quite a bit better than their Marine counterparts. The difference being as I've heard is that the civilian MPs are actual accredited law enforcement officers.

What is the pay/benefits difference? As in how much better? 

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

Avg starting pay seems to be around 50-60k a year. Benefits: Life insurance, paid leave, retirement plan, health insurance and credit for prior military service 

kElJoY --- 13 years ago -

Credit as in government service I assume you mean for retirement pays? 

akdiesel --- 13 years ago -

Yes credit as in time towards retirement..similar to how the Post Office transfers years of military service towards your retirement (ie: 4 years active duty would mean 16 years till your 20 year retirement)

The pay/benefits for the civilian police works out much better than the Marines since I currently make somewhere in that range with benefits included..not before benefits 

Beach Living --- 13 years ago -

They are getting civilian MPs at alot of bases.. They have them for the Navy and other branches as well. 

lizi --- 13 years ago -

Having civilians is significantly cheaper in the long run compared to having a Marine in the same job. My dad gets paid more than a 5-star general, but having him in his job is still cheaper than having someone in the military perform the same duties...it all comes down to the cost of training. At least...this is what I've been told is the reason. Could be wrong. 

playing nice --- 13 years ago -

It's amazing how people like to comment about PMO. Sure its easy to sit there and critize but do any of you know someone who works there. I've been around the Marine Corps a long time. Did you all know that about 80% of the civilians are former or retired Marines. I talk to one on the gate who happens to be a retired GYSGT and he is very friendly. There has only been a small number of PMO that are total assholes. 

kElJoY --- 13 years ago -

ahaha GREAT SCREEN NAME!!! Welcome :)

*told you all PMO was watching!* 

IWearHisRank --- 13 years ago -

It's amazing how people like to comment about PMO

NO, not PMO, civilian cops!!! 

playing nice --- 13 years ago -

Definition of Cop: noun, informal.
1. A Police Officer
2. One that regulates certain behaviors or actions.

Let me think.... Their job title is Police Officer of the United State's Marine Corp and as such is charged with the duty of investigating violations of the uniform code of Military Justice and collection of evidence in criminal cases that the ARM forces of the United States may have a interest.

Sounds like a COP to me!!! 

Beach Living --- 13 years ago -

but do any of you know someone who works there.

Actually yes I do :)

AND YES. Mostly ALL the civilian cops on 29 Palms MC base are prior service to Military. They are cops, they do the same job as city cops. They all went to an academy and graduated as "police" officers.

:) 

IWearHisRank --- 13 years ago -

Their job title is Police Officer of the United State's Marine Corpandas such is charged with the duty of investigating violations of the uniform code of Military Justiceand collection of evidence in criminal cases that theARM forces of the United States may havea interest.

Now thats just funny shiz!!! LMAO!!! Is that why they are so "squared away"? 

Toys for Tom --- 13 years ago -

Is that why they are so "squared away"?

Squared away like a soup sandwich!!!! IMO 

Toys for Tom --- 13 years ago -

Mostly ALL the civilian cops on 29 Palms MC base are prior service to Military.

and the ones I know didn't make very good Marines in the first place and were NOT allowed to reenlist...Whats that tell you about them????? 

OU812 --- 13 years ago -

Whats that tell you about them?????

Volumes!!! 

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